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| srinivas (hyderabad) |
Posted on: 26 Jul, 2005 5:57:57 AM
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can u give give info how to reach himalayas
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| sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 6 Jan, 2005 10:35:32 AM
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Utkarsh,
Krys Kazmierczak keeps a tab on new finds and vagrants, and was interested in knowing whether it was found in the wild. I presume it is not the case, here. Thanks for your reply.
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Dear Sai
When you say bird sanctuary, I presume you mean some kind of zoo, since this is not a bird which occurs naturally in India. I'm not particularly familiar with African birds but this appears to be a Purple-crested Turaco (Musophaga porphyreolopha), which is only found in the wild in Africa.
I would be interested to know, whether this was a captive bird or found in the wild.
Kind regards & Happy New Year.
Krys
Krys Kazmierczak
krysATkrys.net
http://www.orientalbirdimages.org
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| Utkarsh Gadewar (Pune) |
Posted on: 6 Jan, 2005 2:30:04 AM
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Sai,
No I did not take this picture and nor did i see this bird. This was shot by my friend at at a place named nawegaon situated in Chandrapur(Nagpur). Well known sanctuary represents identity of kolu madhavrao patil known as "Aranyaputra".
Regards,
Utkarsh
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| sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 31 Dec, 2004 2:04:36 PM
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Utkarsh:
Did you take this picture?
Did you actually see this bird? If so, was it in a enclosed sanctuary housing tropical birds? OR did you see this bird in the wild?
Warm regards and a Happy New Year 2005
Sai
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Got this shot at a place named nawegaon situated in Chandrapur(Nagpur). Well known sanctuary represents identity of kolu madhavrao patil known as "Aranyaputra". The bird was about the size of a Mayna...
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| sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 31 Dec, 2004 9:35:55 AM
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Hi Utkarsh:
What Vijay says is right. This bird is a Pardesi. It might have come on a merchant navy ship or a shipping vessel. It is easy to buy these birds in east african country markets, and might have been somebody's pet, for a while, and was released here or a escapee.
The attached pictures were taken by jacob79. More of his turaco pics on webshots at:
http://community.webshots.com/album/75045583SdJgGn
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| Utkarsh Gadewar (Pune) |
Posted on: 31 Dec, 2004 3:17:52 AM
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Hi Sai,
Thank you for this.
Find the email below sent to me by Vijay.
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The photo attached to this email is that of a Turaco.
The closest species I see in "Birds of Kenya" is a
Purple-crested Turaco. Turacos are large birds, much
larger than Mynas. They are essentially Central
African birds with very local ranges. Sedentary birds.
No chance of one making it to India to its own.
If this bird was seen near Nagpur it has to be an
escaped cage-bird.
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| sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 30 Dec, 2004 7:35:45 AM
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Here's is your picture of the bird.
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| Sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 29 Dec, 2004 8:12:48 PM
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Hello Utkarsh,
I did receive your email sent to Vijay and me. The bird picture is beautiful!
To tell you frankly, this picture baffled me. I am still trying to do more research, on ID'ing, and will post my findings, as soon as possible.
In the mean time, I wonder what Vijay and other experts think of this?
Your bird picture is reposted here, for others to take a look and ID it.
Warm Regards
Sai
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Hi Vijay / Sai,
I have attached a photo which I am not sure exactly what it is. I think this is a Shama bird, but I need confirmation from your side and also some more information about this bird.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Utkarsh Gadewar.
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Mountaineering is not a gamble.
It's a challenge to impossible
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| Utkarsh Gadewar (Pune) |
Posted on: 28 Dec, 2004 9:18:32 PM
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Hi Sai,
I have been trying to send you an email with a bird photograph to identify the bird, as I am no able to upload the image on this site. But I am getting these mail delivery errors from your email address. I am trying to email you at ssvallabha@yahoo.com. Do let me know your email address so that I can email you the photograph.
Regards,
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| Sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 8 Dec, 2004 10:56:14 PM
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Hi Utkarsh,
Thanks for the pointer to the Nehru Institute of Mountaineering [NIM]. Also, thanks a lot for your question, I learnt a lot about Himalayan Monal, myself in general, ONLY because of you. I am looking forward to seeing a Himalayan Monal, in wild. Looks like there are plenty in India, Nepal and Pakistan.
Did you ever trek to: Everest base camp or Annapurna Base Camp or Annapurna Circuit? in Nepal.
Warm Regards
Sai
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P.S.
Thanks a bunch to Vijay Cavale for providing this web-site for bird lovers.
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| Utkarsh Gadewar (Pune) |
Posted on: 8 Dec, 2004 3:49:07 AM
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Hi Sai,
Thanks again for the wonderful information on the Himalayan Monal.
Climbing peaks in the himalayas need a lot of trainning, you can join some group in your city which will teach you the initial things about Mountaineering. Then you could also go for a basic course from NIM(Nehru Institue of mountaineering) if you are serious about going into Himalayas to climb some peaks.
You can always rent all the equipment required from local porters in Uttarkashi and also in respective towns closest to the peaks.
http://www.nimindia.com/index1.htm
Regards,
Utkarsh
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| sai (Hyd'Bad-AP) |
Posted on: 7 Dec, 2004 3:41:48 PM
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Some more information on Himalayan Monal.
Food: Insects, maggots, tender roots of plants, tender shoots, berries, acorns etc.
Nests: On protected mountain ledges, thick bushes, hole in a tree etc.
Behaviour: Very social, and is usually seen in groups. The groups could be upto 20 - 30 when non-breeding, like in winter; they feed and look for food collectively.
Even though the range of this bird is 7,000feet to 13,000feet, it is also seen at higher elevations. More here --> http://www.wildlifeofpakistan.com/Himalayan_Monal.htm
Thanks for your base camp report. Looks like the trek does need mountaineering skills. Which is a good place for training, also does one buy the equipment? or can they be rented?
Thanks again
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| Utkarsh Gadewar (Pune) |
Posted on: 5 Dec, 2004 1:47:05 PM
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Hi Sai,
Thanks for the information about the Himalayan Monal. Tried to find on the net about it but did not get any interesting information like what it eats and what type of nest does it manage to make at that height. I will be thankful to you if you would send me some links; which has some good information about the Himalayan Monal.
Well about the colorful adult. I would have loved to see it but was not in a condition to the bird that much time and also it was snowing heavily restricting the visual. I saw these birds about 100 feet from me down the slope when we were having our rest time. I was not the one who spotted the bird though, our porter(sherpa) was the one who did it and started shouting “shab shab wo dekho munal(monal)”. I had seen a photo of the bird down at our institute in uttarkashi NIM (Nehru Institute of Mountaineering).
I really doubt about the current habitat of the bird, do you know about anyone who has seen that bird at that very low height. I am asking this coz I have seen this bird at above 16,000 ft for sure, we mountaineers have an altimeter to measure this.
Now about the travel to the base camp. The trek to the base camp (Tapovan 14,000 ft) is easy stuff which does not require any equipment like (ropes, crampons, snow shoes etc.) but it does requires mountaineering skills to cross the gangortri glacier, which is filled with crevasses. The trek to the base camp starts from Gangotri 10,000 ft; it’s a 3-day walk to the base camp. The tree line ends at Gomukh(origin of ganga) 12000 ft, and also the bird sittings. We get to see very birds during this trek; probably the reason is we are wearing very flash clothes like red and yellow jackets, which mountaineers need to wear. Also because we are very exhausted walking to the base camp and all we have to concentrate is on our stamina and reaching the next camp as soon as possible. Last 2000 ft to the summit however needs all the mountaineering equipment like (ropes, crampons, snow shoes etc. attached photo : bad weather) as the climb has a gradient of 90 degrees.
I would have uploaded photos along with this, but I guess there is some problem on the site its not allowing me to upload any image.
The curiosity of which was he beautiful bird just flew by and what are all the voices coming from the jungle, got me into bird watching. I am s/w engineer by profession.
Regards,
Utkarsh
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| Sai (Hyd'Bad - AP) |
Posted on: 4 Dec, 2004 9:16:00 PM
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Namaskar. Nice to read your report of Uttar Kashi visit and trek. Even though Hoopoe is seen all over India, Yellow billed Chough and Himalayan Monal are seen only in the Himalayas. It is really exciting and dazzling to see a flock Himalayan Monal during your trek.
The habitat of Himalayan Monal is 2500meters to 5000meters (which is like ~6,500feet to ~13,000feet). Himalayan Monal is usually seen in small groups of 1 cock with 3 - 4hens (sultan with his harem). Did you see more than one colorful dazzling adult? I guess not.
I really envy you, because the only Himalayan Monal I have seen is in captivity at Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Zoological Park, at Hyderabad.
My goodness, you are a very adventurous person. Can you describe little more details about your travel to the base camp and the trek in general. Also, does this trek involve any technical climbing (I mean ropes, crampons, snow shoes etc.) and training.
Thanks for sharing your information.
Regards
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